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May 06, 2009


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I guess each one of us had a different trigger that put us on path. What put me on path was me being tired of my constant craving - I was getting one thing in life, barely enjoyed it and my mind was immediately on to something else and constant suffering followed. Nothing was enough. It hasn't changed completely but has gone down to some extent. Atleast, now I see the whole process as it happens, whether I can control it or not.


Barry, I agree with you personally in that I was so lost that I didn't even know that I was lost. I was ignorant of ignorance. But there must have been a breeze of wakefulness at some point for me to realize that I was lost. I wonder how that crucial shift happens? If we don't know we're lost, what is there to look for? Or even just to acknowledge not knowing what to look for?

Barry Briggs

Hi MyoChi - It's no small thing to perceive how inherently dissatisfied we are with craving and getting. Perhaps craving will someday go away, but for now the work occurs when I can see it appear and respond in a responsible way.

Hi Alice - I never knew I was lost, before coming to practice. One day, shortly after my daughter was born, a good friend said to me, "Barry, what would it take to get you to sit a Zen retreat?" I had no interest in Zen or spiritual matters, but I valued this friendship. And so I said, in an almost flippant way, "Tom, you should ask me." And so, dammit, he did ask and I was stuck. I had to go on retreat - the longest three days of my life. And, it was on that retreat, during the chanting, and sitting, and bowing, and the painfully embarrassing interviews that I got a sense that this "rental car" needed some work. That began a long period of repair that continues today. Maybe sometime I'll get around to the carburetor...

Thank you, both, for your comments!

Jonathan Raymond

Sensei P'ang [Roshi], [and sangha, gassho, namaste]

Also emailed you at Yahoo! wanted to make sure you got this! Namaste!


I came across your lovely profile while answering some
questions/reviewing my answers. [75% correct!]

Do you have iFlush in Java? I have an LG VU that'd Id Like to try it on?

BTW I am often flooding zenguide.com discussion board and am a Beginner's Mind at Zen.

There I was, in front of my fone, and I didn't even realise I was even there!

Under some direction from a zen monk from kyoto (monkeyed around there for 9 years, John Sojun Godfrey), I cannot say a mantra but have to look only at my thoughts and find the field of mind.

He also recommended I find a teacher! ASAP; described me as a bug looking for the way out of a screen. Especially for koan practise. I'm going on a retreat with my Tibetan Buddhist teacher Dr Richard Reilly and live in the Western NY/Buffalo, NY area.

Any assistance? Or how about some tea?


Jonathan Raymond
17169041291 USA

also please visit http://buddhabuntu.8m.net

Ubuntu Buddhist for Linux ... er Ubuntu Linux for Buddhists...just for you! Please have fun!

BTW my youtube handle is jasballzy and at zenguide.com I am jasballz i am 21.

Jonathan Raymond

Respectfully addressed to P'ang Roshi and sangha,

btw we are looking for pluggers and developers for buddhabuntu to spread the good news and get to work.


Jonathan Raymond
17169041291 USA
Saint Bonaventure University

jill i

Barry I like your version of the poem as it translates to our Century 21 language, made me laugh. So true. Boy do I fuck up over and over. But not always. That's the opening.
Thanks again,


Great, Barry!

Barry Briggs

Hi Jill - Well, yes, we all fuck up, again and again. Suzuki Roshi used to say, Shoshaku Jushakua - mistake after mistake! The opening could be as simple as seeing our mistakes as mistakes.

Hi Uku - Thank you for your diligent readership!

gary gach

as i translate Shiyuan's text from Chinese as part of my own practice, i deeply venerate the boundless merit bestowed upon the universe by the presence of your fragrant site. thank you!

nine boughs.


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