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July 02, 2009


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Lauren Crane

Looks like great minds think alike [wink]. I just finished a little blog that was similarly genesis-esque.

Molly Brown

Get back to the garden. I'm there. Reminds me of a rumi quote--Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing there is a field, I'll meet you there. And it ain't Eden.

Therein lies the duality issue, eh? Right or wrong.

What would it mean to take responsibility for our suffering? It'd be a huge step in the direction of liberation, wouldn't it.

Great post, Barry. Thanks.

Barry Briggs

Lauren - We're on a roll, today!

Molly - Yes, to move beyond all separation, to take responsibility in just that way . . . well, it would change everything!


That was one delicious piece of fruit. Ummm ummm... a taste of Paradise!


Ah ... Christianity and Buddhism - seems I've been rolling in this mud all week. I wrote a few poems awhile back about this section of Genesis. I've always found it interesting how snakes get dumped on so often in spiritual stories.

Barry Briggs

Alice - Also a taste of hell! (With which taste I'm personally more familiar!)

Nathan - I seem to recall that the "snake" was originally a lizard-like creature and that God took away its legs in punishment for seducing Adam and Eve. Slippery, crawly things!

Marie Drennan

Pema Chodron has a little chapter called Drive All Blames Into One (in Comfortable with Uncertainty) that resonates -- ultimately all "blame" comes down to the insistent needs and wants of ego, not from outside. I think of it as waiting for pedestrians to get out of the crosswalk so I can go through: they're not doing anything wrong, they're not in the wrong place at the wrong time, there's no problem except that I can only think of where I want to be.

I wrote my thesis on Genesis (1 and 3) and now I find that another Buddhist idea is present there: the world outside of Eden is not an evil place -- it's just dukkha. It's a Noble Truth. The Eden story describes the entry into a difficult and dualistic environment, but the whole OT is deeply appreciative of the entire created world. There's a strong sense of celebration and respect in coming to terms with the world exactly as it is. Though this gets lost a little in the NT...

Anyhoo, thank you for another wonderful post!


Yo, Barry, I just discovered your blogs.

I once spent the better part of an acid trip realizing how the Adam & Eve story perfectly fits our own story of coming into self-conscious existence. We eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (opposites-thinking appears), then realize that we're naked (I/my/me appears).

Re blame... I've noticed that when I'm riding my bicycle and have a close call to colliding with a car, my first, immediate thought is ALWAYS that the driver of the car screwed up (the bastard!). It's only a few seconds later that I even consider the possibility that I share some of the fault.

It's amazing... the level of certainty I initially feel that the other guy was to blame. Even though it's, y'know, highly improbable mathematically that I'm ALWAYS in the right.

Barry Briggs

Hi Stuart,
Thanks for your spot-on comment - and also the heads-up about your blog. I look forward to visiting you!


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