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May 23, 2011


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thank you for this post.

I didn't know even this much about him, and I didn't realize anyone was beyond the touch of the Japanese. Were they worried it would create more revolt if they interfered with him?

Barry Briggs

Hi Joseph, What I've heard is that his prestige and reputation were such that he was essentially untouchable.

The Japanese authorities called together the leading 25 abbots and demanded that they convert to Japanese forms. After the governor general had finished speaking, Man Gong Sunim stood up and said:

"Do you know where the mountains, rivers, and the great earth come from?"

This was a challenge to the governor general (who could have executed Man Gong Sunim on the spot), and the g.g. couldn't answer.

So Man Gong Sunim shouted, "KATZ!" and then pointed to the governor general's mouth and said, "Then that mouth is the gate to hell." Then he went back to Dok Seung Mountain.

Don't mess with Zen masters.


I got chills reading your response to Joseph! No wonder they wouldn't mess with him! Looking forward to this week's teachings. Already off to a blistering start!

jill i

Wow! What a story! (the response above). Yes, a lot of people, self included, come to Buddhism/meditation/even Zen for peace of mind. I still seek that when I sit to a degree. But the storms still come and go and come and go and come back...now to see the storms clearly as they are passing over/through. That takes courage.


That must be what they mean by having support from the Dharma Realm!

Suzanne Foxton

I LOVE this teaching. Life is life. Enlightenment is realising that life is life - there's nothing more to find; richness can then pervade it. Life is everything that makes up life, storms, sun, bliss, sorrow...that is life's pleasure; the variety of it, the gift of duality. And always it is here, and always it was here, and always it will be here.

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