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June 05, 2011


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Thank you Barry. I think this interview may have been precisely how I first encountered Ox Herding. A truly inspiring teacher indeed. Much gratitude to Charlotte Joko Beck.

jill i

Thanks, love this interview. My first introduction to Zen was through a man I met in a poetry workshop in Yosemite who is a member of SFZC, he sent me Everyday Zen by Charlotte Joko Beck as a more thorough introduction to Zen. I didn't appreciate it as much then as my last read (ha, she would admonish me for re-reading it!). Kwan seum bosal.


Thanks for posting this. Joko Beck is one of my all time favourites. My copy of Everyday Zen is tattered and thumbed and has even had a dip in the bath, I think. Yes, to dedicating the merit of my practice to this great, pragmatic Zen teacher.


Thank you.


-Did you have any realization through meditation?

-No. Of course we have realizations, but that’s not really what drives practice.

I was thinking about this on the train today. When you hear all these famous stories of monk's enlightenment, there's always some out experience connected. The Buddha had his morning star, or there are stories of the sound of a bell, or as you wrote about Zen Master Ko Bong, the sound of a cicada.

Lindsay Kay

now drink your tea
it's getting cold

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